I wish these Wiizard guys would get ontop of shipping their stuff, it has been delayed over a week now (shipping) and they are not advising on the status.
I'm guessing they may be trying to add in D2E support? Just a guess.
Yes Ryan is right, you do need to protect intellectual property.....even on open source believe it or not. Wii-boss was an awesome chip and cost far more in production than what was ever made profit, thanks to some greedy thieves in china.
From what i can see the wiizard seems to be taking time to make sure it is 100% perfect before release. Without the Jtag this makes their job much harder and will always delay shipping and production. This is precisely why D2pro uses jtag, this way they can finish the base product and ship it out......then make any changes after its shipped out if needed.
D2pro (d2c2 ver) con: Dicky eject on some consoles (could be updated potentially with a JTAG in future updates, so no biggie)
Wizzard Con: No JTAG
To sum up: If the wiizard gets it right first time (which looks likely), then it wont need the JTAG (excepting some unrelated Nintendo update issue). But I am sure that there are plenty of people that like the comfort of having a JTAG for a "just in case".
well yes your right ryan i never made money from the wii-boss ,only from installs ,did i even want to make money from a home brew chip, the answer is no,yes they cloned the product ,but i was never worryed abought it!.the answer to the question abought the jtag .......well if it is needed there will be one introduced very quickly,for all you know there is already one .and who needs to worry abought sending back stock to be reprogramed ,when your official resseler can do it for you :P
o and "really" people that complain abought there d2pro chips needing upgraded why do you think there "doucebags" and is that realy how you think of some of your costemers ?
Well they aren't my customers, so no, i don't treat my customers like that.
As I said, if something like this happens again, any bulk customers can send their stock back to me and I will replace with the new version - no worries.
You cared about wii-boss, anyone would. But of course you didn't loose your house over it did you.
You and Jon did a great job....but imagine if you paid some 3d party coder 100k for every console version he cracked.
Say he just cracked d2c2, you pay him the 100k, and then provide the JTAG update file to cloners that just flash d2pro9 clones and sell them for 7usd long time.
People can sit here and complain about having to buy new chips for the new firmware, but you are buying them for a good reason. D2pro do have their costs you know!
seems to me that most of these guys some what copy eatch outhers work anyways ,so who is cloning who ive lost count !,i could rave on abought cost of these chips and proffits that are made on eatch chip,production cost wholsale ,bla bla bla im not here to debate this !,so how abought we just stick to the topic,we "clear" ryan GOOD!..............
Everybody claims every chip is a clone of another. I would say 'inspired by' but certainly not clone. To make a chip updatable it needs to be reversed - not ripped.
For that matter Ryan and Daryl both have valid arguments........and that every one needs to put their penis's back in their holsters. :P
I run the philosophy that zero competition is bad for everyone, but inovators really need to be given the chance to at least recoup their inovation costs (inc time) before being "re-inovated" by someone else.
Littlejony & OZModchips ,noone is going to value your comments according as everybody knows that you are PRO and RESELLER of d2pro,and your only purpose is boicot and fuck the resting competitor modchips,i suggest you shut up a little bit if you are not going to talk anything usable on this forum
wilcd: Grouper can cost usd$100,000's FYI...... I think you might want to read first then post.
I was nuetral on the matter and was making it quite clear that there were pros and cons to both and was very candid on the matter, in fact i defended the wiizard at one point.
Yes I resell some chips, no more one brand than another....in fact just about everyone in this thread does...../me is not a authorised reseller for d2pro and I have no alliance with any chip producer (besides the now obsolete wii-boss)
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