how is that useful? You would lose a ton of features. homebrew and chips are compatible with all versions.
It's not, and if you use it you're a moron.
Essentially it deletes the ENTIRE SYSTEM MENU from your system. That sounds just peachy clean safe doesn't it?
Then it uses the WAD Installer to install an old system menu. Also peachy clean safe. Srsly. Wankydodo says so. He tested it himself so you KNOW it's safe.
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Okay in all seriousness anyone who uses this is an idiot. There is NO REASON to do this. Homebrew works just fine on the latest system updates and downgrading will force you to not be able to play ANY new games. A+ idea right?
If ANYTHING goes wrong in EITHER process your wii is bricked permanently. That's kinda what REMOVING THE OPERATING SYSTEM for the ENTIRE WII will do.
I guess it's just to show it's possible, incase nintendo releases a bad system update.
But being possible doesn't matter. This isn't anything new or interesting... it's just taking two processes that have been done already and putting them together. It uninstalls the ENTIRE system menu and reinstalls it with a wad installer.
The problem with how he does it, is the fact that if ANYTHING goes wrong in the middle of EITHER the uninstall or the install you have a permanently bricked wii. PERIOD. This is not a safe procedure at all and is completely and utterly not necessary.
Even if tomorrow Nintendo releases a system update that makes the system menu use IOS37, this isn't needed. All you have to do is NOT UPDATE until marcan and bushing release a fixed HBC (which you KNOW they will). They've even already tested IOS37 with the system menu and HBC and they said it's nothing to worry about.
well how about if a custom firmware is release but it can only be updated with the original firmware or or 2.1, etc... anyway, it shows everyone its possible. If you don't like it, thats cool. But don't go around saying things are useless, and calling people moron's, that only really reflects on your own personal character. Who really knows what this could bring. Maybe nothing, maybe something.
Take a rock and some paint equals a pet rock. Did it do anything nope, worth anything, really no however it made millions.
"And as the inventor of the "pet rock", he suggested that the pet rock is "an ideal pet - easy and cheap, and it had a great personality" (Stern 380). Though his geological pets were only sold at $3.95 apiece, but in just a few months, Dahl had already become a millionaire (Stern 380). This commodity, that bears the name "pet", is indeed very profitable. Many entrepreneurs flooded the market with dozens of copycat rocks. Some said that, "if you find one that claims to be the 'Original Pet Rock', it is actually one of the copies" (Super70s.com). The market appeared to show a postmodern phenonmenon -- the Xerox-degree of culture. Customers were no longer able to tell which were "the originals" as they all claimed to be the one." ref. http://individual.utoronto.ca/elaine/petrock.htm
well how about if a custom firmware is release but it can only be updated with the original firmware or or 2.1, etc... anyway, it shows everyone its possible.
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"And as the inventor of the "pet rock", he suggested that the pet rock is "an ideal pet - easy and cheap, and it had a great personality" (Stern 380).
Custom firmware is pointless. The only reason to do it is to allow booting of homebrew software... which we can do already. We don't need custom firmware, when we have access to the entire official firmware as it is. However, my issue with this software doesn't come from it being useless, that's just ONE of the complaints against it. The problem here is that the software is DANGEROUS to use with your wii. You're physically deleting the operating system. There are BETTER ways that a downgrade can be accomplished without being this invasive to your system.
Think of it this way. All wankydodo here did was release a program that formats your C:\ and then installs the original Windows XP before any of the service packs or patches came out for it. The only difference here, is that if the formatting, or the installation of windows XP fails, all you're out is your C:\ and you can install fresh. If it fails on your wii it is NOT recoverable. At all. You have a permanent brick.
Sure, if you have an infectus and a backup of your firmware you can fix it, but that requires you to modify your console's hardware. Not something most homebrewers are willing to deal with. This is a dangerous, invasive, and totally unneccessary hack. Now, if you have an infectus and can backup/replace your firmware with that... why the fuck are you running some shitty software from this clown?
As for my own personal character? Yes, I'm an asshole. I'm out spoken. I am opinionated. Sure, a lot of people here might not like me (and I honestly don't give a fuck).
I get paid to develop software for a living. I write code that gets installed on mutli-million dollar enterprise servers. If I went and wrote something like Wankydodo that had ANY chance of breaking one of those systems my code gets run on, do you really think I'd still have a job? Fuck no.
There's a difference between a code monkey and a real software developer. Anyone can write code. Anyone can do shit like he does. Do you know what the sign of a good developer is? Someone who cares about the systems his software is run on. Someone who spends time making sure his code is right and doing everything in the safest way possible.
As for the pet rock? I had a good idea like that once too. It was called a "Jump to Conclusions" mat. You see, it'd be this mat right? And it'd have a bunch of "conclusions" on it that you could "jump" to. It's brilliant.
I get paid to develop software for a living. I write code that gets installed on mutli-million dollar enterprise servers. If I went and wrote something like Wankydodo that had ANY chance of breaking one of those systems my code gets run on, do you really think I'd still have a job? Fuck no.
Oo this is so amusing, I’m guessing 14 to 16 yrs old.... am I right? Custom Firmware is pointless, yep Linux is pointless, Linux on the original Xbox the cheapest web server in a long time. In fact I think someone got some serious cash for developing it. ooo yeah and how about the no need for a modchip anymore...?
As for developing software, let help out here by listing all the things you have release for the scene.
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I'm sorry I seem to be at a loss here, hmm I can't seem to find anything but gibberish.
I think its time to close this thread, but alas I'm sure frozen solid will get his childish final say, having to use profanity to show he's the man,show me, put me in my place.
Oo this is so amusing, I’m guessing 14 to 16 yrs old.... am I right? Custom Firmware is pointless, yep Linux is pointless, Linux on the original Xbox the cheapest web server in a long time. In fact I think someone got some serious cash for developing it.
Don't need custom firmware to run linux on the Wii. We're already doing that.
Also I'm 24 and have a Computer Science degree, but nice try, and no, I haven't released anything scene-related. You caught me there. Sorry, but there's more to developing software than just releasing homebrew on consoles (though homebrew is pretty damn cool).
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So lets say that a future "Official Nintendo Firmware" adds USB storage support. But that same firmware also blocks Trucha. Waninkoko, then puts out a custom firmware that includes USB storage support and excludes the Trucha blocker. Are you still going to say quote, "Custom firmware is pointless".
The point of this video isn't to put firmware 2.1 on a Wii. It's to show what can be done.
There are way too many people in the Wii scene trying to hold it back.
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