All things works fine right now. Homebrew, channels etc. It's just crazy to destroy something that is working right? Better do extreme thing when we have backups in our sleeves
My opinion is that after i read dudecherishurwii post, I thing that (if possible but it seems like) the best is to FIRST HAVE A BOOTABLE RECOVERY DVD!
That kind of disk will save the day from anything that will full-brick our consoles now and years later. Even a ninty's corrupt update. Just like a fresh OS setup on pc. Something that Nintendo had to gave us from the beginning.
Then why would a backup boot when there was no system menu in dudecherishurwii's test when a mod chip was not installed?
It doesn't. Once there is no system menue the Wii won't boot anything.
And independently of this the drive doesn't talk to the rest of the Wii for disc-authentication. If it's a legit game-disc it will run it if it's not it will lock up and give an error to the system menue.
So you allways have to patch the drive if you want to run anything else than original games.
Now imo there is a change we could get a softmode afterall. As seen
tmbinc beliefed from looking at the drive-firmware, that the drive is patchable through software alone. And if you think about it it makes sense, since Nintendo would need it to enable DVD-video-playback later on.
If that's really the case then the only thing blocking us patching the drive is the Starlett and a custom IOS could cure this.
The only problem is, that most of the top-wii-hackers won't do it, since they are strictly against piracy.
(Disclaimer: I'm just guessing here, though I think they are good guesses. The only thing that's really known is, that we can't patch the drive through software at the moment, so we can't play backup/homebrew/media-discs without a modchip.)
Interesting thread indeed, lot of confusion in people's mind
There is something than most seem to be missing because they are putting too much hope in a custom firmware like they had on the PSP:
1/ the Wii System Menu is NOT a Firmware, this is just a channel title like any other (or quite, because this is the first one automatically launched on startup which make him a very sensitive part of the system), that can be removed or reinstalled, there is nothing new with that, all the required code is already in libogc, discovered by marcan&co.
2/Waninkoko is NOT your new DarkAlex hero-like, it's just like a sorcerer apprentice playing around with some lines of code some smarter people gave him...
Now, the method or "proof of concept", if you prefer, showed in that video is indeed pointless and will never be useful because :
1/ a modified system menu will never be able to do more stuff than we can actually do, it's just like any other piece of code, it is limited by what IOS allowed you to do.
2/ if a new system menu that blocks custom channels come out, you won't be able to load any homebrew since the signature bug used by everything (from custom channels to trucha discs) will be patched so, how do you run this "downgrader" ? the IOS used by Zelda could also be patched in the same time, ruining all possibilities to exploit the "TP-hack".
so my advice: stop dreaming about stuff you don't reallly need and enjoy current homebrew status, what Marcan, Bushing & co have done so far is more than a proof that they are the one you should trust.
I think that not releasing it because of the public being too stupid is not a good idea! I don't need this right now obviously BUT there has been some things in the past that had big warnings on it and one broke my xbox when my computer froze working with the hard drive. I was pissed of course but i knew it was a huge risk so i was pissed at myself. If the warning is there, especially not hidden! then i think it is fine to release it. Don't save the public from them selves.
although this is a good idea, and could have future benfits if nintendo decides to do somthing funny, i do have a solution to help prevent WII bricks. Although this might be hard to do and i not saying if this can even be done. It's the same idea what dark alex did with his CFW add a recovery menu to the Wii IOS or somthing or if not that then somthing that will allow us to boot a dvd before the ios loads that way we can either run unsigned codes and might lead possibilites to unbrick FULL bircks
although this is a good idea, and could have future benfits if nintendo decides to do somthing funny, i do have a solution to help prevent WII bricks. Although this might be hard to do and i not saying if this can even be done. It's the same idea what dark alex did with his CFW add a recovery menu to the Wii IOS or somthing or if not that then somthing that will allow us to boot a dvd before the ios loads that way we can either run unsigned codes and might lead possibilites to unbrick FULL bircks
I think we are better off if something like the PSP's Pandora Battery is made for the Wii. This way we could fool all we wanted with the Wii and always be able to recover.
The recovery menu in Custom Firmware on the PSP does no good if the entire firmware memory is corrupted.
This downgrading could be useful if Nintendo decides to patch the TP hack.
Right now Custom Firmware is not necessary since all current hacks work.
IMO, I think it would be more important to figure a way to run the system menu from the SD card since we would be to run any version of the system menu we wanted and still be able to run the Homebrew Channel.
Of course none of this matters until Nintendo updates the System Menu to use IOS 37.
I do hope that bushing and the other pro Wii hackers can find a way to patch IOS 37 and deactivate the Trucha Patch like we can with the Error 001.
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marcan bushing and co. ar currently working on adding some recovery-code to boot2.
I know they are.
Unfortunately Nintendo can update boot2 cause I've seen a boot2 wad in the update partition in many games and I'm sure it can updated via the internet too.
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