Wii Downgrader

[Frozen-Solid]

Originally Posted by CasperH

He does have other channels after the reboot so maybe it's fake.
And does the HBC go to the health and safety screen after shutting down?

That happens because those channels were on other pages and after removing the entire IOS and System Menu it can't remember what pages channels were on.

[dreary79]

Originally Posted by Slowking

It wouldn't have to be a complete custom Firmware, just a custom IOS and btw. there is allready USB mass storage support.

Cool, when I get home I'm going to put all of my VC games on an 160GB usb drive that I have. It's going to rock saving all that space on the Wii memory. I'm also going to copy a GC game onto the USB drive and play that as well.

Originally Posted by Frozen-Solid

IF that happens, then the answer is releasing a SAFE way to update firmware, NOT totally removing the system menu. The REAL answer would be to find a new way to install the HBC, NOT actually screw with the official firmware and downgrade. My understanding is that Bushing and Marcan are already working (or have ready) ways to do this without requiring such a dangerous and invasive procedure. There is no point in releasing them UNTIL Nintendo makes their move. Otherwise Nintendo can be like "oh so that's what they're planning, we'll cut them off ahead of time" ruining all the work they've put in.

I get it, this isn't an important step to getting us towards something more safe. Gosh, these hackers Wii hackers sure do suck putting out all of this kind of crap. This firmware downgrade gets us nowhere. Who cares that the entire firmware can be removed and then reflashed with a different firmware?

Originally Posted by Frozen-Solid

We don't need custom firmware though. There's no reason to bother with custom firmware right now. Maybe in a few months if Nintendo seriously locks down the IOS and System Menu to the point that we can't use it, THEN it will be necessary, but as far as I'm concerned if you really want homebrew you just don't have to update.

Everything that maybe useful in the future is pointless and crap today.

[pezjono]

Originally Posted by dreary79

Cool, when I get home I'm going to put all of my VC games on an 160GB usb drive that I have. It's going to rock saving all that space on the Wii memory. I'm also going to copy a GC game onto the USB drive and play that as well.

I get it, this isn't an important step to getting us towards something more safe. Gosh, these hackers Wii hackers sure do suck putting out all of this kind of crap. This firmware downgrade gets us nowhere. Who cares that the entire firmware can be removed and then reflashed with a different firmware?

Everything that maybe useful in the future is pointless and crap today.

Damn it. My sarcasm sensor broke after reviewing your post!
Now I need a new one

I really did LOL after reading "Custom Firmware is pointless"
Although it is true that we can load homebrew from original Wii firmware, that does not mean we are not limited to what IOS blocks. Certain hardware functions (such as USB transfer speeds) are being blocked from IOS. With a replacement firmware, we can remove such functions and fully unlock all hardware support.

Is it 100% necessary right now? No, but there most certainly will be a use in the future when a better means is accomplished. For instance being able to erase/re-write the firmware from one application at a single time instead of loading 2 to do the job.

[Frozen-Solid]

Originally Posted by pezjono

Certain hardware functions (such as USB transfer speeds) are being blocked from IOS. With a replacement firmware, we can remove such functions and fully unlock all hardware support.

This doesn't pave the way for custom firmware though, no more than the WAD Installer and Uninstaller did. This just mass uninstalls every firmware upgrade, and puts them back on. It's nothing new nor special.

You know the other reason I think custom firmware is stupid? There is only ONE real use for custom firmware that can't be dealt with through standard software hacks and IOS calls: Booting burned Wii DVDs. THIS is why I really don't want to see custom firmware. It's bad enough that Wanikoko's WAD Installer opened the way for virtual console piracy. Custom firmware would just raise another red flag for nintendo to take more agressive actions against Homebrew. It's people like Wanikoko that ruin the homebrew community for everyone.

[jareth]

Originally Posted by Frozen-Solid

This doesn't pave the way for custom firmware though, no more than the WAD Installer and Uninstaller did. This just mass uninstalls every firmware upgrade, and puts them back on. It's nothing new nor special.

You know the other reason I think custom firmware is stupid? There is only ONE real use for custom firmware that can't be dealt with through standard software hacks and IOS calls: Booting burned Wii DVDs. THIS is why I really don't want to see custom firmware. It's bad enough that Wanikoko's WAD Installer opened the way for virtual console piracy. Custom firmware would just raise another red flag for nintendo to take more agressive actions against Homebrew. It's people like Wanikoko that ruin the homebrew community for everyone.

Yeah, i think you instead of waninkoko are the kind of people that ruin any kind of community to me. You're arrogant, disrespectful to the works of people like waninkoko and even to himself and do nothing constructive at all. If you think there's something to criticise waninkoko's work, go and say it to him as an adult.
For the time being, you're nothing more than an obstacle. And a pretty annoying one.

[dreary79]

Originally Posted by Frozen-Solid

You know the other reason I think custom firmware is stupid? There is only ONE real use for custom firmware that can't be dealt with through standard software hacks and IOS calls: Booting burned Wii DVDs. THIS is why I really don't want to see custom firmware. It's bad enough that Wanikoko's WAD Installer opened the way for virtual console piracy. Custom firmware would just raise another red flag for nintendo to take more agressive actions against Homebrew. It's people like Wanikoko that ruin the homebrew community for everyone.

I would love to see the Wii boot copied Wii games without a drive chip. It would be even better if I could run Wii games from a USB hard drive running at full USB 2.0 speed. Gosh, I wish every system could be like my Xbox and PSP.

[jebise101]

frozen-soild i don't agree with you at all, look at the psp now its the greatest handheld to have if you have CFW on it it can do so much more then what sony allows you to do. Nintendo is the same way, when psp offical 1.5 came out they should that they can run codes on the console and it evolved to what it is today. This is just the start to the wii, even though that CFW for the wii is pointless right now you never know what nintendo might do it later upgrades, and with this realses eventhough its unsafe right now can change the whole homebrew seen. I don't think nintendo allows us 100% access to there system and CFW if it where ever realeased will do that and would change a lot of things. Everthing has to start from somewhere, i personaly would have custome firmware on my wii rather then nintendos firmware, unless they decide to do what microaoft did with the xbox.

[Frozen-Solid]

Originally Posted by jebise101

Everthing has to start from somewhere, i personaly would have custome firmware on my wii rather then nintendos firmware, unless they decide to do what microaoft did with the xbox.

See, that's the thing. The more you go behind Nintendo's back and mess with the firmware (especially if it's with software with such a high chance of bricking systems, because that makes THEIR jobs harder), the more likely they're going to take action against homebrew. While I haven't really followed PSP homebrew in a really long time, for a while when it first got going it seemed like every week Sony was doing something new to brick or otherwise stop homebrew from being run. Nintendo's already taken their first step against homebrew since Datel released the Freeloader (which, granted, is more a step against the freeloader than homebrew), and the WAD installer and all of the VC piracy going on gives them yet another reason to activate IOS37 and fix the trucha signer in the system menu for good. That and I really don't want to see people getting banned from playing games online, especially if they're people like me who are using homebrew for legal purposes.

There's a reason xiaNaix has said not to post the downgrader here, and Bushing and Marcan are warning against this software as well. Wanikoko is banned from wiibrew. Contrary to popular belief he is not some almighty god of homebrew. Bushing, Marcan, Dhewg, Segher, and the others who made HBC possible make homebrew what it is. These people do their best to make Homebrew safe and reliable for the rest of us.

[Slowking]

Originally Posted by dreary79

Cool, when I get home I'm going to put all of my VC games on an 160GB usb drive that I have. It's going to rock saving all that space on the Wii memory. I'm also going to copy a GC game onto the USB drive and play that as well.

I just said, that there is allready USB-mass-storage, not that it would help you to pirate games. rtf!
Sven's blog: USB storage status Sven's blog: USB storage status 1.1

Furthermore it would be totally pointless to make a whole custom firmware. If Nintendo were to block fake-signed channel it would absolutely suffice to hack the IOS the system-menu uses. The same goes for enabling USB 2.0 (if the hardware supports it).
And in fact Bushing, Marcan and co. are working on modifying IOSs but it's extremely dangerous, so nothing will be released untill we have a failsafe in Boot2 (wich they are working on, too).

[riku98523]

... Anyone else notice the DBZ BT 3 Channel O.o (sorry if this was already posted)