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09-17-2008
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brakken, will this really have impact on modchip sales soon you think? Does it really work flawless?
Well, upload it somewhere else and let someone try it out. I surely believe someone will take the risk to brick their Wii
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09-17-2008
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What about Wii updates? Will this not be be easly blocked by a next update?
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09-17-2008
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Modchip installers will cry out loud if this update turns out to be fully working without being blocked of newer updates.
By the way, donīt you have to load TP everytime you want to play your backup? Doesn't sound very convinient to me
Last edited by doomed_; 09-17-2008 at 04:49 PM.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doomed_
Modchip installers will cry out loud if this update turns out to be fully working without being blocked of newer updates.
By the way, donīt you have to load TP everytime you want to play your backup? Doesn't sound very convinient to me
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Hopefully it never gets released and we never find out.
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09-18-2008
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First at Brakken lame dude you shouldn't even grace someone like him with a reply like that.
And AuroEdge this should be released and there isn't a good reason not to release it. Don't try saying the wii scene will die or anything because that would be stupid. Yes it will allow piracy without Mod chips, but that still isn't a good reason not to release it there are some of us (me included) who actually modded the wii to play backups of games we own.
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09-18-2008
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Don't get too surprised if Ninty fix this hole anytime. They will do whatever they are able to in order to stop the piracy if they are able to.
I know this is a bit off-topic, but Ninty could have put some glue on their ICs in order to prevent Wii-clip to be used. I am surprised they did not made this attempt. Most likely it's a cost issue
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09-18-2008
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Comments from Macan posted on Engadget...
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Seriously, one thing is for Waninkoko to put together four existing hacks and make a crappy game copy loader (no, it won't be fully compatible and there is a hardware limit to half reading speed - long loading times) and quite another is to get his stuff advertised on engadget of all places. Via tehskeen no less. Remember last time they got posted here? That's right - when he claimed that a little dongle that I humbly made to try to help people fix bricked Wiis (which is boring by engadget's standards) was somehow everything from a custom firmware, a pandora battery, a game copy loader, and who knows what. He still claims that I'm lying and trying to keep it under wraps for some deep dark secret reason.
Now engadget is basically promoting game piracy. I mean, seriously - you haven't even fallen into the "backup game" trap. The "(or, eh hem, otherwise obtained)" speaks mountains about what the author of this newspost was thinking - and we all know that is EXACTLY what 9 in 10 future users of this application are thinking. Since when did it become okay to promote game piracy (oh, sorry, I meant "game backups") using "politically correct" language?
Waninkoko didn't even do this for himself, at least not entirely. He used to claim that he wasn't interested in writing this. The reason he changed his mind is because he used to work for a certain modchip team, for a short while. They're shady, and haven't been paying him (not the first time they do this - I've known others who have had problems with them), so now he decided to stick it to them by writing this and trying to cut their sales. Almost a noble cause, except we did warn him about these idiots and he chose to ignore us.
Now Nintendo is going to come down even harder on wii homebrew. They already proved that they are unable to distinguish between the piracy scene and the homebrew scene, by trying half-heartedly to block our existing homebrew hacks. Best guess now is that they'll actually start cracking down, by properly fixing all existing published bugs, including one that will be fixed in future consoles sold. Once they do that, we will lose a very important ability on those newer consoles - with current consoles, we can hack the software to enable almost entirely risk-free recovery if you screw them up. We're working on it. Once they fix this one bug, this will not be possible on newer consoles. Ever (it's pretty fundamental). And since this bug is all related with the ability to run homebrew too, they're going to do this ASAP now. In fact, we'll still be able to run homebrew (their system is way too insecure for that), which means all of the pirates will get what they want, as usual - but those of us who will want to safely screw around with our consoles will be screwed with new Wiis.
First it was VC piracy, now it will be game piracy. First they fixed trucha and tried to block the Twilight Hack, now who knows what. Last time we said "thanks, waninkoko". I really would prefer not to have to do this again.
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Wii ISO Loader demonstrated on video running "backup" copy of Zelda - Engadget
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09-18-2008
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I kinda understand why Wanininko does this if the team he worked for didn't pay him. Now he wants to avenge this. He used to be proud of his skills and now he is pissed of. Thats the way it works if people betray you.
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09-18-2008
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It is funny how everyone thinks Waninkoko's iso loader is going to make Nintendo block homebrew or work harder at it. The fact is Nintendo has already tried blocking homebrew.
Anyone that thinks Nintendo wasn't working on patching loop holes before any of Waninkoko's applications came out is kidding themselves. So blaming the fall of the homebrew scene on 1 man is kinda stupid.
Now there is a link between an ISO Loader (softmod for backups) to those that pirate games. What is the difference between a softmod that boots backup games and a Modchip that boots backup games. They both serve the same purpose and both can be exploited by those that pirate games.
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