[fluidmax]

Originally Posted by blklotus1

Took a quick skim of the actual document and came up with somthing very interesting..

(2) Paragraph 41.1(1)(b) does not apply to a
person who offers services to the public or
provides services for the purposes of circumventing
a technological measure if the person
does so for the purpose of making the computer
program and any other computer program
interoperable.

Now im no lawyer but if im reading this right, it will still be legal to use a modchip as long as said modchip is designed to make a computer program interoperable.

What im thinking is that as long as a modchip permits you to play other forms of media on your wii console that would not normally be playable on the wii (like making the wii load a computer game like doom) you can still legally sell, install and use a modchip.

Does this make any sense to anyone else?

that part of the paragraph was just put in after numerous recommendation from the IT industry, so basically for those PC programmers who write codes, i do not think it would apply to modchip sellers in canada, however i am not sure if installer can still offer the service (without the modchip which the customer must provide it themselfs) i guess we will have to wait and see

[WiiModWiis]

I remember when this was going down in America, and someone brought up a good idea. It had to do with the PIC controller modchips like the Wiinja or Yaosm.

If you just solder and install the PIC plug which fits externally, and leave it at that, you're not "installing" a modchip. You're just installing the PIC plug which does nothing by itself. Then it's just up to the customer's if they so choose, to purchase their chips where it's legal, and plug the PIC microcontroller (Wiinja for example) in on the rear of the Wii.

Then your offering mod services that don't directly involve you having to handle or install modchips, (but you still get paid the same for your install services right now for making the connections)

Of course, this wouldn't exactly work with current actel chips, but if need be, we may see creative modchip supplier's coming up with "plug and play" compatible modchips for external installs, via something similar to the PIC plugs which you see installed externally for PIC chips.

There's always a loop-hole somewhere, you just gotta be creative enough to figure it out.

[jetcat]

Well it´s not legal to drive your car as fast as you like but.........
we do it anyways!
In Sweden it´s illegal to chip your Ps2,Xbox.Wii......
But we do it anyways,just like filesharing if they want to get hold of all that
they have to close the internet

[unlockmyxbox]

nooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[WiiModWiis]

LOL, I so want to open my internet browser one day and see a huge sign saying:

"Sorry, we're closed."

[fluidmax]

Originally Posted by WiiModWiis

I remember when this was going down in America, and someone brought up a good idea. It had to do with the PIC controller modchips like the Wiinja or Yaosm.

If you just solder and install the PIC plug which fits externally, and leave it at that, you're not "installing" a modchip. You're just installing the PIC plug which does nothing by itself. Then it's just up to the customer's if they so choose, to purchase their chips where it's legal, and plug the PIC microcontroller (Wiinja for example) in on the rear of the Wii.

Then your offering mod services that don't directly involve you having to handle or install modchips, (but you still get paid the same for your install services right now for making the connections)

Of course, this wouldn't exactly work with current actel chips, but if need be, we may see creative modchip supplier's coming up with "plug and play" compatible modchips for external installs, via something similar to the PIC plugs which you see installed externally for PIC chips.

There's always a loop-hole somewhere, you just gotta be creative enough to figure it out.

this plug & play device didn't come out when USA and UK had their DMCA passed way back... i doubt it will ever come out...

[elprez]

.....

Can't find the words to say how much it sucks!

[Robochicken]

Originally Posted by fluidmax

this plug & play device didn't come out when USA and UK had their DMCA passed way back... i doubt it will ever come out...

It's called the WiiFree EasyConnect. PIC chip only though.

What a sad day

- Australia
- China
- US
- Canada

Smashed...

I can think of a few places/countries/websites where you can still get stuff. Hopefully those stores are smart enough to keep themselves off of banner ads.

[Ruddicz]

Originally Posted by blklotus1

Took a quick skim of the actual document and came up with somthing very interesting..

(2) Paragraph 41.1(1)(b) does not apply to a
person who offers services to the public or
provides services for the purposes of circumventing
a technological measure if the person
does so for the purpose of making the computer
program and any other computer program
interoperable.

Now im no lawyer but if im reading this right, it will still be legal to use a modchip as long as said modchip is designed to make a computer program interoperable.

What im thinking is that as long as a modchip permits you to play other forms of media on your wii console that would not normally be playable on the wii (like making the wii load a computer game like doom) you can still legally sell, install and use a modchip.

Does this make any sense to anyone else?

That paragraph don't exist in the C-61 bill, least the first reading issued today. Its been modified now to you can't circumvent protection unless its to do with an investigation.

"(2) Paragraph 41.1(1)(b) does not apply if
the services are provided by or for the persons
responsible for carrying out such an investiga-
tion or such activities. "

Theres also this:
"(2) Paragraphs 41.1(1)(b) and (c) do not
apply to a person who offers services to the
public or provides services, or manufactures,
imports or provides a technology, device or
component, for the purposes of circumventing a
technological measure in accordance with sub-
section (1), to the extent that the services,
technology, device or component do not unduly
impair the technological measure. "

Modchips are defiantly outlawed in section 41 - but lawsuits in both England and Australia have ruled them legal... This should be a deciding factor for sure.

[Peppers]

I remember a few of the gamecube modchips came with wires with a connector that plugs into the actual chip. That would be pretty simple to do athough end users and pulling on wires soldered in place.........